Join us for an inspiring conversation with Amber and Austin Richman, the visionary siblings behind Cambio Yoga, a donation-based yoga studio that is reshaping the concept of community wellness in Colorado Springs. From humble beginnings during a recession, Amber and Austin share their innovative journey of making yoga accessible to all while maintaining a strong focus on education and community building. Discover how their sibling partnership, marked by mutual learning and unwavering support, has been the cornerstone of their success.
Experience the heartwarming tales of unexpected generosity and the profound impact of yoga on personal growth, as Amber and Austin recount stories that have shaped their studio's journey. From federal raids to selfless acts of kindness, these anecdotes illustrate the powerful community spirit that surrounds Cambio Yoga. The Richmans reflect on their mantra of "You are enough," emphasizing self-acceptance, grace, and the joy that pets bring to their lives, all of which contribute to a thriving, inclusive environment.
Amber and Austin offer insightful reflections on leadership, highlighting the importance of mission alignment and the role of compassionate guidance in business growth. Hear about their challenges and triumphs in maintaining a healthy community focus, balancing the needs of diverse stakeholders, and redefining success as a leader. With a focus on fostering individual growth and embracing imperfections, Cambio Yoga stands as a testament to the power of leading with love and dedication to one's mission, fostering a community that enriches both its members and its leaders.
welcome to show me yours in this episode we get the opportunity to talk with
Amber and Austin Richmond of Cambio yoga in this episode we reflect on leadership
a lot of lessons learned and as Austin said it was a series of a thousand paper
cuts that they had to go through as they built up Cambio and self-reflected on who they are and how they showed up in
their community in addition we get we get the unique privilege of talking with
them about the Mastery and the use of their mission and how their mission was
their Guiding Light for decision making as well as building the business and their
community and how it played a pivotal part in all things Cambo so stay tuned
as I get to introduce you to Amber and Austin of Cambio yoga
welcome to show me yours I am your co-host Rihanna Werner I'm sitting here with my fabulous soon to be famous Jason
Sheffield who's my my Jason hi my Jason my co-host Jason
Sheffield um and I get the great privilege of introducing more friends of
mine because you know I want to pretend like I'm popular um but I have had the
privilege of making friends with you guys gosh years ago I got to walk into
Cambio that was right amidst the pandemic wasn't it Amber we walked in it
was just before was it just before yeah it was we had um we found you after a
situation in late 2019 oh that's right oh my goodness that's a long time ago
wow it was I feel like we've gone through so much life so much life
we have we I mean we've gone through a pandemic together yeah I mean survived the pic um but I have my good friends
Amber and Austin Richmond of Cambio yoga they are the co-founders of Cambio and
if you're not familiar with Cambio they are a yoga studio dual yoga studios
plural now um dedicated to creating accessibility for all to yoga um
donation-based right um accessible features you guys train um yoga teachers I mean you guys
do it all in the name of yoga and Community which is just sings to my
heart yeah we try yeah yeah um so tell
us a little bit about Cambio give us just kind of a a just 30 second who the
heck are you oh I feel like you're good at this all right yeah uh well we're a
donation-based yoga studio that has been in town for 15 years we've got two locations I mean our guiding principles
are Community Education and accessibility and we're always expanding
the the broadening definitions of what those terms mean to be continually um
inclusive and serviceable yeah how I'm curious just frankly in the
beginning how did you guys start I mean 15 years ago was your idea yeah well just us to the it was a lifetime ago um
he yeah I I had lived in Seattle for a while and took some donation classes and
um then one of my teacher trainees locally had donation classes through her
um just her house and I was like this is really cool I was a school teacher um and you did all kinds of teaching in
various jobs um and we were and it's like even as yoga teachers and people with
careers yoga was just not accessible to us and thinking about how many barriers
there were for other people then I mean that's not to finances is just one barrier right and so um we
really I it just kind of honestly happened as a whim um I don't think we ever thought it
would be our actual jobs no and it was just this thing where there was a need for it in the community and we really
wanted to create just a welcoming oh just real heartfelt Community with
really high quality yoga and um the donation piece was really important and
really uh we got laughed at quite a bit at the time um like trying to get or
just spent a lot of time explaining what that was like people just were like what is that especially 15 years ago kind of
very fresh an idea of this idea of that I mean it was for me I was like he
didn't I was like this is never going to work but you're my big sister and I do
what you say so let's roll can you train my brother no I
that's how we've always been she she's she she's like you ready for an adventure I go I guess I am I guess then
he usually outgrows me within it and I wind up learning from him so it's a really good uh we have that good Mutual
there's a lot of reciprocity in that way very cool well I'm excited to dig more into that and what you guys have learned
but let's throw it to some rapid fire are you ready absolutely let's really get to know Amber and Austin here okay
so they know questions are coming but they don't know which one I think I'm going to ask I mean this is Yoga we got
to go slightly you guys are different and weird so tell me about the weirdest
thing you guys did to Kickstart Cambio there's a lot of weird things we
did actually um do you have one off the top of your head you want to go with uh I have so many um you pick one and then
I'll pick one weird I mean I think it's weird to start a donation-based yoga studio when um with just like a very low
limit credit card is all we had and during a recession during a recession No loan no nothing just like okay let's
build some walls put up some mirrors put in a floor and then yeah and then you
know just literally build a thing in the air and see if it flew right yeah um and
I mean we would hold like community events we that we just we were throwing things to see what would stick like I
remember one time we had a a tailgate party and it was so well received I
think we had one person's truck tail down with a Coleman Grill and there were
like four people there you know so that was pretty time we did a a poetry reading in the parking
lot where like like literally a circle of people on the parking lot in Austin on Austin Bluffs cars just driving by
and we're like reading edar and po to each other or their own poems
and' had um bouncy houses for birthday parties and a water slide uh yeah blow
water slide blowup water slide that we rented for a party in June and it was like the coldest day of the year and it
was like the most freezing water slide but and I think me and Chris me and
another person were the only people who actually went down the water slide I went down did you go down yeah yeah but
we I regretted it yeah I I think he and I were the only ones who repeated it so
yeah it was like ice plunge Before ice plunging it was cool yeah before it was cool yeah yeah I think that was it
though like just in the early days just our whole thing was anything to get people through the front door even
because so many people especially Back Then There Were uh fears around yoga and what it was and everything else I mean
this was 2009 it was a very different world and so just have a wine tasting okay maybe someone will come and we
actually did we have people come who never had done yoga who are still part of the community from like wine t a wine
tasting wow wow pumpkin carvings beer brewing yeah things we wouldn't do now
what I my band just play one time we're like come on in and we'll just play really loud music in your face you have
nowhere to go yeah it was just any uh we had First Fridays we had art that
rotated through we just anything um yeah and also just again that touched on that
whole Community piece and and just being more than just a place to come make weird shapes with your body okay I have
to ask a followup to this cuz this is fun what's the one event that you through that makes you
cringe you're like oh Amber I heard you say you're like a lot of the stuff we
probably wouldn't do now yeah I think because I don't think I
think it mostly because it didn't work it was just not I some of them the
partying got out of control in the early days and that makes me cringe now cuz that just doesn't feel like who we are
or what we're trying to put out in the world and it got it could get there things got wild
sometimes I think maybe I'm just old now but yeah Fair yeah I'm thinking of um we
used to our senior teachers we would ask them if they wanted to do like an event a community event and sometimes we would
attach it to a fundraiser and I remember one of our teachers did one that was
just so abominably bad in terms of just show up like one person came to the
thing and he made flyers and like put his heart and soul into it and so I don't know if cringy is the right but we
I just remember us just sitting on the curb just being like it's okay you know like it's fine and you know just
learning that like I think early on that like you can't be cringey you to we're
doing something different we're kind of forging our own path in the forest and we're going to do 10 things and
seven of them probably aren't going to work and if you get caught up in the cringiness of that then this you
probably should just go on the trail yeah so we we learned pretty quick to just let it roll off her back if it
wasn't working yeah definitely have to set your ego aside to start a business yeah yeah yeah okay I'm going to do a
card which one you guys want to choose
Emma okay Amber's pull on the should read it yes okay is it worse to discover your fly is
down oh this was on your first episode oh is it we do different got to do I
watched it I did my homework here I'll take that those cards are
famous we've only pulled three yeah I know the randomness that's funny right
uh what's the most unusual gift you've
received well something's com I've got I've got one when we started um our
second location the Pikes Peak location it was a huge undertaking a lot of renovation and one day somebody just
walked in and was like you've got a lot of Windows in this place I was like yeah he's like you got a lot of Windows we're
like yeah he goes what are you going to do for blinds I was like blinds you know we had so many things like that we were
thinking about that when he was like blinds we were like we have not even thought about blinds and he he said he
was like well how about we gift you blinds for this place like the roller ones yeah I mean for we have a ton of
Windows and um yeah that was incredibly generous that's yeah remarkable who is
this generous soul and please tell me he got like a thousand hugs oh yeah we well we did we still have an ongoing trade uh
with his employees or getting are getting yoga and things like that really yeah that's Fant and what yeah
but I don't know not of course right
thanks for the clarification Austin speaking of weird gifts we did have um a certain kind of
massage studio next door for a long time and we would get visitors who would come in and be confused about what we were
about I mean we had well we had a massage table that we we had a room that we rent out to people would go to that
and think it was the one that ended up getting shut down by feds it got raided
it got yeah when we had teachers there they saw wow okay wow that was an
interesting day at work yeah it was an interesting day at work wow there's some yeah I mean not
not all small businesses in Colorado Springs are um doing legal things I suppose you could say yeah we found out
that's true you found that's true yep well do you have a unique gift Amber
that you thought of well it's just along the same lines I think we just um we we have people just show up in these like
amazing ways again and again and again and again and um when we first opened
the studio we had just this downstairs space at Austin Bluffs and we had this guy who was just like I love painting
can I come help you out by painting and he painted and painted and painted and then we never saw him we're like we'll
give you yoga for life and he's like no I just am really into painting wow so cuz it was a lot of do-
it yourself didn't hire people yeah we were like we were not into painting So this this saved our skin and we had to
do everything over and yeah yeah we had like a start date for the the initial opening and get the painting done the
floor in and all this stuff and he was like a Zen it was like a spiritual practice for him he would just come in
and he wouldn't use any other materials he would just eyeball it and his lines were I mean he wouldn't tape things off
wow he it was crazy wow so when you say painting like painting the walls not a
mural just the walls came in and painted and they needed several coats cuz we did
a color that shouldn't have been on top of it the whole thing um yeah but yeah and so I think over the years just I I
mean people have been so generous and just given and contributed in their own
way whatever that is and it's been usually very hum humbling and very um
just like w so I don't even know about uh weird or funny gifts but just really surprising and like wow MH I think that
speaks to who you guys are though don't you find what you put into the world it it returns back to you so it goes to
show your generosity and your giving and your creation of community and the world
is responding to that which is pretty spectacular well thank you that's kind
of be to say thank you well I've seen it in action so you know I've been a witness
question M uh a billboard is going up on I25 and every person in car springs is
going to be driving by and seeing it what would your message be yoga for all I mean that's our
mission really yeah yoga's for all and you can find it here or a statement maybe also maybe it doesn't have to be
marketing I'm curious like also like is there a statement you would want the world to see or understand or to
contemplate or to a phrase that comes to mind for you where you're like I want everyone to see
this phrase h no that my brain doesn't work that way
it just doesn't yeah sorry yeah I mean I think on our website on the mission statement it says um you know everyone
is perfect the way they are and yet you can still and yet there is still work to
do so um yeah I mean you know simple platitudes like that give self Grace I
mean I think that'd probably be a big statement for us to see if we were driving past the billboard I think we
are very hard on ourselves sometimes as leaders and and business owners so if it was for us the business it was for us
like give yourself some Grace and that might extend to other people but I think um I think
consistently when people do the Deep work at yoga often times what they they need to kind of be revealed to within
them themselves not even necessarily hear from us but just get to the the truth around is that that everything is
okay and and they are enough people just need to be reminded often times through
one way or the other that they're they've got all the answers with them in them and they're enough you are enough
yep that's a good one I like that I'll go with that that's my answer all right all right time to pitch in on that
billboard let's get I'm game let's get that is awesome
well you guys have been preparing they even have a meeting to talk about this podcast and I am so excited to hear what
this meeting resulted in so show me yours well it was a loose meeting I I
have your expectations too high it was actually yeah it was a puppy play date and so yeah little distracted our dogs
it was really about the puppies well puppies usually matter the most they went out yeah exactly I mean look at
backer he runs the office MH so he's the he totally is you know he'll go into my
staff's office and he'll sit there and like bark at them until they give him a treat he has everybody here trained I
think except for Jason myself and Brian he has everybody else trained to bring in treats for
him he hasn't gotten you trained yet yeah no I said a boundary back said nope
you can go to others for that it's a rare person smarter than a small dog
say so Amber and Austin since you put a lot of thought into this which I
appreciate let's dive into the core of the content here today what was that big mistake that you
made as you were starting or running Cambio what it look like feel like let's
dive in yeah I well I think as we talked about this uh we honestly couldn't
pinpoint one there was not one big where we're like this was it um I think though
we were able to look at areas where we've had the most growth right as as
individuals and as leaders and how that there tends to be lots of mistakes in that broad area
because well if that's where the growth is that's probably where the mistakes have been um and so I and for both of us
it really boiled down to leadership and to um Lessons Learned in leadership and
it's it's some of it's the same but some of it's quite different for me than it is
for him and um I don't know do you want to speak to yours first or do you want
me to uh well I I mean I just have a lot of different scenarios I think it depends on what season of The Learning
because we're always growing we're always learning how to be better leaders how to be better stewards of the mission
and so um I was just reflecting on like a year ago what I was
really learning and being challenged by was how how my thinking around the
community we built what I was building was on one hand the community is what we would want
the community to be but as a leader it's not for you and that that is a real that
was a real lesson of maturity um that I'm still learning um so it's a lot of
it is I think the biggest mistake is expectation I've been wrong the entire
time for 15 years I mean from the get-go when she was like let's start donation based yoga and my expectation was well
let's do it but this ain't going to work you know to oh this is working so this is what this means and it's like no
still wrong still wrong still wrong but slowly you kind of go back and forth from
learning what's not working along with what is working and you refine kind of a
specific Focus so yeah for me I think um showing up in community in a way where
for me Cambio is about serving and and I want the community to be serviceable for
people when I need to be served that's not my role there you know what I mean
so I have to look for other resources for that um so that's you know I would I
don't know if that's a big juicy fat mistake but it's something that um there was a lot of emotion around in learning
how to navigate the the piece of you that needs certain things in your life as a human
being a feeling human being a sensitive person um and and knowing what the privilege
that comes along with such a wonderful role that I get to be in the community I think Austin that's really profound like
it it takes me back to gosh so much especially in myself and
supporting our clients and stuff because we all have a perception of reality right we all know um
reality or perception is reality and the the problem with leadership is is in our
own mind is well if this person can lead me the way I want to be led or I I'm
leading this person the way I want to be led but here's the problem with that is
that you trying to lead me the way you want to be led isn't meeting how I need
to be led yes which is so hard to do because that requires us to get out of
our own mind MH first acknowledge that we need to get out of our own mind and then learn about the needs of others and
as a leader every single person you lead is very different and then you guys as Community leaders understanding the
community as a greater whole and meeting their needs which is very different than individual needs too yeah well and
you've got one more complex layer to juggle which is Teachers needs students
needs yeah and those are sometimes separate and then yes like you're saying
the individuals within both of those communities and then the the larger context within both of those communities
and then the larger Community both of those colliding represents so it's really quite a like quite a calculus
sometimes so you're really set up for failure you know all the time but but I think that that's why we struggled with
this question so much because I think very early on we had to reframe the
context of how we Define the word failure and it's learning opportunity
really I mean it's generic and cliche but like if you are taking those moments
as failures if you're filing them in your brain as failures you're just
never I don't you know it's going to burn you out or tear you down or where
you you know it's not you know when you do something like this for 15 years and and that's part of the beauty of running
with one of my favorite people and somebody I believe in so much and who believes in me is that there are times
where you're just beat down because you're like I have effed this up time and time again and it's you know luckily
we have a Synergy where often times where one of us is feeling down or
wrongheaded about it or whatever the other person can can support hold space for and sometimes guide or just simply
allow that person to have their process with their own learning in Journey yeah long enough to be able to get to that
place where you're refreshed again about it and and carry forward yeah I don't know how people do
it on their own I I think that a lot with business owners um who don't have like either
someone just by their side or or a staff where they're just really in it together
um and which we also certainly have that as well but yeah yeah it's a lonely place it is and it can certainly be
isolating if you don't have someone so totally understand that yeah yeah so I'm
curious you know Community is really hard for any business owner that's out there has been trying to build community
or they want to have community in their business you know dealing with human beings isn't easy and so I'm curious
like as you guys reflect on 15 years of community building as your business
model frankly right I mean on some levels like donation based it being a community what were some of those maybe
kind of mistakes or learnings that you had around what does it mean to build healthy Community like where did you go
down One path of thinking oh this is what community is going to look like maybe to be surprised and realize oh that didn't work but it became into this
other thing or whatever but tell me a little bit about kind of those Lessons Learned of leadership as Community mhm
well I know you've been talking but I feel like this falls into what you were just talking about with yourself it's
good and this interview is slowly going to be for the listener death by a thousand paper cuts cuz it's going to be
a lot of these little iterations of of these lessons that are very you know but
I think you know like I was speaking about the the tip of the spear right now is about realizing wow we've really
created this community that I've always wanted to have and and now but to Foster
it actually don't get the benefit of the community in the way that um it needs to be and my role needs to be in it but
early on on I think um I think some of those lessons around developing
Community were well very early on it was about real realizing what isn't important to people and that that the
efforts that we're making are you know just Superfluous like you know the tailgate party and things like that like
being able to really focus it in on what is the gift that yoga gives so
it's not you know there is a context that is always kind of community is Under the Umbrella of yoga all the time
so to me when I talk about fostering and creating this community that I've always wanted if I were to break it down into
what it is it is a community where you show up under the assumption that
everybody else is showing up as their best self and you're putting your best self forward as well and if everybody
has that kind of just assumption adopted we're already elevating what community
large is right in the world so it's already kind of a special container for people to feel a sense of safety
empowerment and connection in a way that creates an unspoken
understanding so I don't know if that answered the question but but that's that's kind of what all the mistakes
have kind of led us towards but yeah in the early days it was a lot of like putting energy towards efforts that
didn't stack up to anything it was also um not realizing that the elevant in the room
is the yoga like that that's it's not about the Poetry or this or that it's like the yoga is the thing that is
healing for people it's the thing that is comforting to people and is a thing that puts people also on a growth Edge
and sometimes as adults it's so easy to get into a state of overwhelm around
everything else you've got to juggle the last thing you want to do when you have your free time is like now I got to learn more and grow more and and by the
way within that realm is also like healing and that's that's exhausting when you don't have a vehicle that
allows that to happen pretty unconsciously but also with a lot of
um gift and joy and compassion and kindness and Grace involved with it that
yoga provides so I think early days it was about trying to figure out this thing this problem of like how do we
create this kind of community when the answer was kind of staring Us in the face it's like Oh Well yoga right well
and I think within that is the idea that you cannot be everything to everyone and
that doesn't mean they can't be a part of the community in in their way too but you can't um at least for me one of my
struggles and mistakes I've made has been around um it's kind of twofold really but one
of them has really been around just I you know I think our Mo in life in general shows up in leadership and I
definitely can be a people pleaser and so for me it's like especially in the
early days there was some lady who wanted to do some kind of special pelvic floor class for people and all and she's
like you need this and she got so mad at me because I was like this doesn't fit our schedule and this isn't going to
work and no and I'd have and and then there'd be things like well okay these people want to host a belly dancing
class okay sure but um or what there was an African drumming class and just kind
of like opening the doors maybe too wide again and getting back to just no what
we do is yoga and there can be Community around that and there can be ways to
bring in bits and pieces of that but it's also um that there needs to be a
focus and um and there needs to be choices so so you're saying yes to the
yoga you might need to say no to other things that you allow in and then that even means um as far
as behaviors and things you will allow and tolerate and where you draw boundaries I think boundaries is a huge
thing to learn as a business owner and particularly when there's Community um
because of friendships and because you um even if even if you work with someone but you
don't you're not necessarily friends there is just this real care and there's this common worldview that sometimes can
get hard hard to um when when someone doesn't see how you're seeing things to
be like no here's here's the here's the line and um that I think for me there
and that's an ongoing lesson is where are those boundaries and expressing them properly and not going because I've had
times where I think when you have boundary or when it's hard for you to express those or you're learning to
express them you know you can go from being too soft to them being like well next time I'll cor it and you
overcorrect and you're like oh my gosh I was such a jerk yeah like I I was just
like I had times where I'm like and we talked about this too like where I've have had in my mind what I think a
business owner should be and that's not who I am yeah and so all I've had times
where I'm like well I need better boundaries here and so I I've been stiff and firm and like and a little too much
like this and I look back and I'm like oh my goodness like I would have rather actually air it on the side and being
too soft often too and I certainly have done that too and that's bit me in the butt many times but um yeah so I guess
it's it's negotiating all of that it's this ongoing thing between um having genuine care and and true and love for
the people in your community and who you work with and also there's there's this
business and then there's yoga and it as a tradition and being honoring it yeah the philosophies yeah well and that
makes it complicated because when we're creating all these things and making these decisions I I spoke with somebody
recently I was like you know if we wanted to do this to get rich we would have had to change our approach and what
we were doing a long long long time ago you know the decisions Amber is talking about the boundaries that you make it's
to maintain soleny within the community and protect the yoga philos you know the
the principles that yoga philosophy is built on and it's always future forward
for um something greater than us yeah yeah I find it interesting because of
course you know we've all worked with leaders in our past lives and our
current lives and stuff and I always find that everybody points back to a
particular leader in their life whether it was the like the best leader that they ever worked with or the worst
leader that they worked with right and you always do your best to either overcorrect that worst leader or super
align line with that best leader can you guys pinpoint someone in your life where
doesn't matter which way but is there someone you kind of you think of in your mind when it comes to leadership I know
our mom yeah really your mom awesome really yeah yeah um tell us about her
well no I mean she just she raised to you know kids by herself and worked
full-time and never never uh let us know how hard that
is like we had to grow up and become adults to realize holy like what she did for us to be able to like carry
kind of the light of our own childhood into our adulthood she you know it never it was something that she gave
us with such generosity so much space to just stay connected to you know your
inner child and your in your heart and I think that that is like I think you
know probably the hardest thing to do honestly in the in that cold hard world that we live in absolutely and uh oh
gosh so many parallels in our lives so I'm hearing raised by a single mom here in Colorado Springs older sister younger
brother that's my life story too
single yeah right Kindred Spirits so I was by a single mom here in Colorado
Springs I'm the older sister I've got a younger brother but yeah I can like as
you're talking Austin it totally resonated cuz that was my mom too really I never knew I grew up like my younger
years basement apartment downtown down here color springs like lived in the hood like get out but my mom worked so
hard to raise my brother and I eventually you know we were able to she got a promotion at work and we were able
to move to a little bit nicer area and then you know she I mean here she is
gosh 67 and has been retired for 8 or n years and did it all on her own good for
her I know great moms huh yeah yeah I I think about her a lot because
we and and it does I think those formative years do again they show up in how you do these things and I I think of
her you know something very um upsetting or triggering happen with kids at school
or this or that and I just want to be mad and whatever and she'd just be like
she always would be like yes and and she could have this compassionate but I also feel sorry for her cuz her mom da or you
know she she had this uh way of being caring with us but also getting us to be
like oh this person is coming from somewhere too and I think that that is something that um it just really informs
both of us in our world view and our leadership view because you'll get emails I've had a couple just this week
as a matter of fact that can be triggering where you're just like oh my gosh this person doesn't get what we're doing and they're upset and they're and
we've worked so hard and we've been over backwards it's you know and you can instantly just go into this like the
place and then it's like um you know if you can soften up you can usually see
this person is asking to be heard this person's asking to participate in the
community still but they don't know how yeah um and and so when you can kind of
I think we learned a lot of skills around kind of it's still hard I'm not saying it's easy but it just softening
around that MH full circle leadership perception kind of back to where our conversation started she's the one who
taught you that yeah oh yeah interesting yeah and I think too what amber for me has been a great
example and role model of leadership because she gets that in a way that she has to continually remind me of that
number one and number two um affords the whole structure of the company to
operate in a way where you know if you're really going to put a label on it we're not doing what
we do again to get rich you know we want to keep the business solvent we wouldn't make enough money to keep this service
um growing and and at a high quality like that's a big deal to us but I think
so many businesses get into the Trap of if money is kind of the the focal point
at a certain point you can't help but get into win lose situations and what
we're always trying to do is create a win-win scenario yeah and that's even with other yoga studios you know we
we've you've spearheaded things with other local Studios especially I remember during the pandemic where we
would um you organized Community meetings with owners of other yoga
studios to be like hey how can we work together how can we stick together to to make it through this together and you
know a lot of those Studios did not make it but our philosophy in terms of that
is always been like let's just grow the pie together rather than there's only so many slices of pie here but that kind of
for a lack of better term like abundant mindset thinking you know we're always pointed in the direction of win-win with that
and and that's something that it's a real freedom to be guided by that and I
think it's a lesson you learned from mambas you you espouse it you embody it in a way that is definitely the
leadership of Cambio well that's sweet I feel and see it's funny because then I could just go on about him and how I
think but I think that's what works is we have such a true Mutual admiration for one another and I'm always just
today talking about a situation just he brought me to such a place of like calm and compassion around it whereas I knew
I needed to get there but I was caught up in my in in fear and emotions and
things so um yeah yeah we we are like a ballast for each other we we really are we learn to
well when you're siblings you kind of either have to learn to work together or not yeah and and so we started young
with figuring out how to work together but um yeah and I just want to add too I think having a mission has been so key
to all of those because that's what we bounce every decision off of is is this
making the mission to make yoga accessible um is it adding to education is it adding to community and if it's
not then it's not worth it and so that's that's way more important than our feelings our ego and and sometimes that
isn't an issue but sometimes you do take things personal and you're like you have to shut your mouth a lot well for sure
you do and just be like oh like I I mean I'll just can I give a quick example I
had an email that um from someone who was upset about you know wanting
something and this and that and and we've been through this with this person and here's how what we'll do for you and
here's what and then all of this and I wrote an email and it was a little triggered I could tell so I calmed down
I got to a place and I wrote another one I'm like nope I'm still getting my digs in like I could not so I was like Austin
please help me and so we help me and he's like you got to take that out you got to and but it is like you have to um
it can't be about winning you personally it can't be about winning a fight or an argument or a position or anything else
yeah so I'm C like again curious in this world um you guys are adopting this very
different model of doing business right this donation based Community focused um
not focusing just on the wins again what are some of those challenges you guys have felt in maybe just even the
donation based side of things I'm really curious about that as we listen to a lot of you know business owners and how to
grow a business but what what have you guys learned about the donation based side of things got a big one yeah that
always gets in my CR which is cuz when we started out early um I didn't realize
this was going to be such a big deal because there's a stigma around the value of something according to its cost
so and they've done there's sociological studies around this where if you and I buy the same car and you find out you
paid $7,000 more for it you're going to create a confirmational biased narrative in your brain to justify to yourself why
yours is actually worth more than mine even though it's the same exact thing so when we started donation based yoga I
didn't I wasn't aware of this and there was a lot of prejudice that it's like oh if I'm not paying an arm to leg for yoga
it must be lowquality yoga so I would early days I was on like a I was on a
hellbent mission to be like oh this is quality yoga and this is every bit as good as you know and to the extent that
I was trying to do more than what really became our Focus around what we were doing and um but no I think that to me
that's a big you know success for us is a range and that I think is another
reason why we've been successful as a small business if you pinpoint success is one thing and and if you don't hit
that one Bullseye everything else dies that's just hamstringing and so um for
me a big stigma around changing people's perceptions
that things are you know the value of something is not in inent to what you're
being charged for it it's not equal to cost well I think another perception too
that we had to deal with and contend with a lot especially early on um was what donation meant it was equated in a
lot of people's minds to free and along with that I remember in the early days having people come in and
literally say things and this was from more than one person saying oh this is so great yoga should be free yoga should be free was a phrase I
heard a lot and um while yes I it should be accessible I also you know there's
rent there's a teachers should be paid um you know the there's so much more to
it but um there's had to be and people just in general culturally that's
changed too I think but I think there's just uh there's always a reassessment of
how are we educating our community around what donation actually what does
that actually mean um and what does what does that look like like how do you educate your community on that because I
could see how they jump to the free perception and then you've got all these people coming in going and not dropping
a donation into the donation bucket well for one thing all of our education we really see um regulars of the studio as
well as teachers as stewards we use that term a lot they're stewards of our community so our job is to make sure
that other stewards really if they understand then it gets that message
gets across um because they're really the teachers are the ones the students
are seeing or the even the students who are there a lot and who love it and want to help us take care of it they're the
ones educating other students um so I think that's really a huge piece of it
is just making sure and that's a constant ongoing thing because of course there's new teachers coming in teachers
going out and um community members changing I mean you know in col Springs it's such a I mean people we have a lot
of military and people just come and go a lot so um it's just a constant and also reassessing like how
are what's the perception of it now and how does it need to shift our education shift around that teachers in the old
days used to feel bad asking for money um for their classes and so just even
getting to where like it's okay to ask people to pay for a well we've worked
specifically with languaging around it in a way that supports the teacher to not feel like they're in some kind of um
putting some imposition on people so so we've also helped kind of like script out how to have that transactional
conversation in a way that is non-judgmental and not awkward or cringey and and really actually
empowering for for both people yeah that's wonderful it's taking some work would you break that down just a I'm
curious this from like an advice perspective right these lessons that guys have learned for other small business owners I think there's this
principle of how do you ask for money on some level cuz the the like the donation
isn't ask right whether you're selling something with a set price or something that's donation I think there's a lot to
learn from what you guys are doing so how do you do that can you break that down just a little bit yeah I think it's
really just about having it stated simply and and treating the person without any Prejudice and saying how
would you like to donate it's literally that simple sentence and then by the way how you respond to whatever they say so
no matter what they say if they're like $5 or $15 you say great thank you so
much and you just you emphasize that Their donation matters
and so it's it's really about just being like there's no charge to the question like there's just no emotion behind just
how would you like to donate today you know you just you you give it to them as like a you know this is your world we're
just just living in it tell me how you want to show up you know and then you just confirm that like whatever they can
give is more than acceptable it's it's great it's you know you know it's appreciated
yeah have you guys ever received like a mindblowing donation like where in the world oh that' be nice we we've had some
certainly very generous ones but Life Changing
Life yeah like when you hear about the tip the tip or something yeah but we have I
mean there's been some very generous ones there was a guy who moved to
California who left us something in the the triple digits which was very generous and we were and during Co there
were people who I know stepped it up and did more and things like that you know
we we have people all the time who in our teacher training we have a sliding scale for our payment where you can take
a scholarship or give a scholarship and part of our languaging that is kind of funnel through that is there's no
application for the taker scholarship you and there's no questions asked and and we're very Frank about that we're
like hey if you need to take a lower price point for this to uh we have a
scale that slides but you know if you go to the low end okay that's then that's
what it is you just tell me and there's no big deal about it but um you know we have also The Giver scholarship and
recently we had somebody who went above and beyond that and that was really like wow like you know so people wow tend to
get it and and I think when they get it it there's also a
appetite for transacting in a in the world in a different way than everything
just being about bottomline capitalism that is refreshing for people that they want to engage with the services and
goods that they're voting with their dollar for in ways where they're not just a number they're just they're not
just a client they're part of you know a concept ideal Mission community that is
greater than um you know a figure yeah they're contributing and and they really
are and that's something too I think that's important is um the concept works because people care about it and they
take ownership in it too and so there's a lot of languaging around that and stewardship and things that help with
all of that yeah that's wonderful okay so we started with Austin's then we kind of moved into some
really good conversation but I want to Circle back around to you and and talk about your
leadership epiphanies and moments oh goodness okay um well as I mentioned one
is of course like just um just really having to get comfortable
I wouldn't say comfortable but accepting the fact that um like I'm really not
going to make everyone happy and and that's okay because we have a vision and we have this this thing we're caring for
I don't even see it as mine or his it's this thing outside of us that it's our
job to care for and to attend to um but one of the things that I think and I you
know I think there's kind of this idea of what a business owner should be and I kind of alluded to this a little earlier
um and maybe because there are so many um typically in our culture we see it as like a manly man kind of thing and this
kind of like especially growing up I mean I'm 49 years old grew up a lot in the 80s and it was like guys in red cars
driving their sports cars and being you know having their free cases and their shoulder pads and like I I don't know
what all's gotten in there or why but um but it's there unfortunately at times
and really just having this idea of what a business owner should be and and again and again coming against the fact that
I'm not that yeah and that actually and this is something I talk to teacher
traines about a lot because and and younger or I should say newer teachers um a lot of times it's those things
where you feel like it makes you different or makes you um you know not
the ideal or the picture perfect version of something that actually is what you
have to contribute like it's that thing that is your as Austin says sometimes
your special sauce and um so for me like and and so Within that
realizing I don't have to know all the questions about technology I now in the
early days I we both had to kind of know it all I we had to be plumbers we had to
be the IT people we had to be Carpenters we had to be you know and and letting
that go and not out of a sense of control because it was never I'm not a micromanager anyone who's ever worked
for me will tell you I I I really believe in giving people space I'm a former classroom teacher and I I think
it's that like monory thing like people um when we give them the right amount of
space and the right amount of support they really Thrive but um so it's not about control but it is about my own
standards for myself that I come up against and a and slowly um you know we
always hear like you should delegate and do this and that you don't have to do everything but to actually take that in
when there's this image of you know people out there business owners and entrepreneurs they have to
hustle the hustle hustle culture to me is so it kills my soul and and yet there
many times I've gotten caught in that standard of I should be doing more I should be killing myself over this
literally and it's like and there are plenty of times where you do have to kill yourself over it just about anyway
um so you don't need to give yourself those times additionally and and just realizing there are places where I can
contribute something that only only I can contribute and then there's a lot of places where I'm the whole business is
better off if I just say let's let you do that yes like this is great I don't
and I think a real point where that came up was when I decided to not teach public classes anymore um other than
with teacher training I love uh teacher training is still something I'm I'm very involved with but um I had it so much in
my mind I'm a yoga studio you and I should be teaching you know in the early days gosh I was still teaching fifth
grade full-time when we opened and teaching 12 or so classes a week I mean it was insane wow and so you get you
ratchet yourself up to here and you think you have to stay at this level but then other things start demanding more
and it's just not sustainable so you have to and at some point it was like wait I don't I don't have to teach a
single class if I don't if I don't want to because it had gotten to the point where I was down to where I only had
time for one a week and it became such a stresser for me because you're actually
better teaching two or three classes because it's easier like otherwise it's like you prepare for it and then you
have five days to forget how to teach and then you have to gear yourself back up and it's really um it just I'd have
two days before my class where I'd be like oh my gosh I had to start prepping for this class and getting ready and it
became such a stress point that when I let it go there was guilt around it but it was also like wait
I have these amazing people teaching classes like I believe in our teachers so much that if it's making me miserable
and sick to do something that's not contributing to Cambio yeah that is doing nothing for our community like my
role is to then support them to get out there and do the best they can do yeah um and so
just realizing culturally what's expected isn't necessarily what's going to fit for who I am and how I need to do
this to survive it do it well even if it's a imagined IDE yeah your own yeah
and I think that a lot of times it is too so for me that's been a real and I I
would say that that's the point we were talking about that the other day is is really being like um it getting behind
the scenes more not being as much and that's always been too an extent intentional it's not about having some
Superstar yoga teacher who the studi all Fram around but just being putting other
people out there um has felt really good isn't it funny how we get caught up in
this role of societal expectations but especially for entrepreneurs at our core we're rule
Breakers we usually go against the societal expectations right like you
guys even alluded to it when you guys first started Cambio a lot of people said that's never going to work
including me and the Small Business Center we got laughed at at the small business in see yeah HR branches same
story I remember going to friends and family saying I'm going to stare HR firm and I'm going to help small businesses
they're like small businesses don't need help with HR and I'm like yeah they do
they do yes and I was told so many times it was never going to work got laughed out of
the room just like you guys but I think it's our innate core that drives us to
break those rules and see what does work but then we still get stuck in that societal expectation of yeah of what is
a business owner you know what is that definition of success what is you know your working hours and it's yeah it's
interesting it's Unique to humans cuz it's like you don't you know you outgrew a role and like I think about like a
lizard when they outgrow their tail and it pops up the lizard doesn't reach back and grab the tail and go I'm supposed to carry this thing now right like yeah but
humans we're like we don't quite we're not as smart as
lizards yeah maybe we need to learn something from them the snakes skin I will not shed
this yes I won't shed this snakes skin yeah wow so Amber did you have a a
moment of recognition in all of this because I think when you're in the thick of of trying to be that person to do all
the things and then there is that transition you said in the early days you had to do it all it's just kind of
the way it goes right you do it all and then you bring people on and I think every entrepreneur as you
grow goes through this which is such a great discussion that I'm excited to kind of get into is you hit a point you
bring people in but then you have your own mindset and whether it's the
societal expectations your own expectations or control issues it's hard
to hand stuff over to people and then trust them and you kind of have to have
that Awakening moment of just like you said I trust my people I want them to
succeed I want them to thrive do you have that moment where you're like aha I get
it I I think there's lots of there's been many moments like that along the way yeah and um I and I I can't point to
just one where it turned on but I I think we help each other reach those moments a
lot too we're both very aware of that and the necessity for it um but it is
there you know there's just a real practice there has to be this living a
bit in the unknown yeah and that is hard right because we want to know well how's
this going to turn out or how's this person going to do here or what's going to happen if I let this go and there
just has to be a bit of trust in what you've done what you've built about in
our situation around the community around the people we know who are contributing to it and working at Cambio
and do and doing so much just um it's it's when I feel myself getting like I
like get tight you know then I have to like kind of ease into like okay there I
I don't know the outcome of this but I never have mhm not in 15 and a half
years have I ever even when I thought I knew I was usually pretty wrong so I
think for me there's this continuing to um kind of soften into the question yeah
of things if that makes sense can does can you guys think of an example and this is kind of going back to what you were saying a little bit ago Austin is
this idea of a community like it's not really for you anymore right like it's this thing not in the way right yeah so
where did things you guys put maybe an intention or Direction on something but then the community took that and evolved
it in a direction that was better than maybe what you thought it was going to be in the beginning oh yeah I
mean I think that I mean that happens all the time I think um that's kind of the mark of good
leadership I think in a way is where you recognize that it's a social process that a lot of your role is about role
modelship and if you're doing that well what you're doing is not only repeatable
and imitatable but should serve as kind of like a ramp an off ramp for people to
reach higher Heights so um I mean you know like we have I how many teachers do we
have right now close to 60 we usually around yeah so you know early days like that whole
mission of like proving to the world that like oh yeah donation yoga is badass trust me come on try me this is
the best yoga you can't even touch this some wine some wine Cara pumpkin get your ass
in here and and then and then to realize like slowly but surely it's like oh not only
can you not do this alone like the message we keep coming back to you but like the more you don't do this alone
the better off it will be and it's literally just creating space stepping aside and enabling people to you know
and and I will say like I I will back Amber up 100% she is not a micromanager she is a great leader in the way that
she enables people to find their interests passions and own
skin in the game so that they go above and beyond just naturally I I think that's the thing is that like early days
we were the ones who thought well make or break this place is going to be about us going above and beyond and we didn't
realize that oh it's not about hiring your friend to be here it's about hiring
the people who are mission-minded because those are the people that when you give them some of this real estate
they're going to just go above and beyond and and that's and so in every single way and there's not one in every
single way everything we've ever laid out and done has been outdone by our people like yeah I mean I I see teachers
the way that they even just mingle with their students after class and I'm like continually learning from it I watch and
I see oh I need to start doing that like that they're doing that better than I even realize like the way that they're
showing a vulnerability by just presenting thems after class to to maintain that presence and carry the
experience Beyond just the doors of the studio it's like you know we're we're continually being taught by the them now
in ways where that's why I mean by it's a social process cuz they lead us we you
know open the door but I don't know how much we're leading them now but we are in a distinct position where we can
point out the things that are happening that are really good and then kind of just tether those things back into the
culture so they become organic I keep seeing this vision of this Bountiful G
and you guys are in your overalls just tending to the Garden as the gardeners can't beo really just taken on a life of
its own it's because it's it's become its own living organism which is truly
the sign of incredible leaders so through this whole leadership
Journey what were your Lessons Learned do you guys have like maybe a big takeaway or a couple takeaways what are
the the big lessons and then we'll jump into advice for our listeners here in a
moment well um I you know I think we've kind of and I know we're bad about staying on topic because we've kind of
been talking about these things but you know I think big lessons
are to if you don't have a mission have
know your values and weigh everything against that so even like Austin was saying is this person right a person can
like seem really right for a job but are they right for the mission y cuz
that's a part of it too and every decision I I think leaning on that
mission more and more and more has been um really one of my biggest lessons and
and also just um like I was saying just um granting myself Grace and and
realizing that you have to realize it's going to be messy and it's going to be imperfect and um how can you what can
you take from that because if you're not taking from it then it is just a sticking point but it's like I will say
I think one thing we've done well is um even when we've done things poorly right
like handled a discussion poorly or whatever it's we have never stopped self
assessing and not in a way again you want to Grant yourself Grace but you also have to be like but but where can I
take this so I don't do that thing again so well said I forgot the question
um what if what is the biggest thing I've learned about leaders Lessons Learned um yeah um I I mean I love that
that idea that um trusting people and filling out the
people around you with um the freedom to allow them to rise to
their own level of skill and interest and recognizing that like you know for me out of the you know the broad
spectrum of everything that I've ever had to do at Cambio I probably do 10% of it really well and the more that we have
created community at every level from the the students to the teachers to the
teacher training faculty to administrative stuff to Bringing people on like you who have our back that you
know we get into sticky things where like we don't know what to do in this situation it's like the biggest relief to realize like
we don't have to pretend to be experts at anything that we're not good at anymore and to really
like collaborate co-create with people who know that and and that is just
like we have a deep bench now of people who like we trust like we'll just email
you and and be like cool I don't have to worry about this because I know they got got us on this and they're going to come
back with something that's just going to be exactly what is right for again even
the mission because you guys get us like we're you know that that going back to the mission continually just gets that
so clear in all of our relationships that that's that's what we're doing here in this relationship we're not here to
um make as much money as possible we're not here to win and other people lose we're here to uphold these guiding
principles and the more that you know we kind of radiate that through our
relationships that's the ground of the conversation yeah okay I'm I'm I'm going to take a little
bit of a left turn here because I think this is important and I hope you guys don't mind me doing this Mission and
values are so important but often times so misunderstood and when they're used
right they are a game Cher but when they're used wrong they'll destroy any
business you know we've all seen the words on the wall they do more harm than good when they're not used right so I
hope you don't mind me doing this but I'm I'm excited to go down this path because I don't hear of mission and
values used in small business as effectively as you guys use yours and so if you don't mind me picking your brain
here talk to me about how you developed your mission and
or Valu is whatever mission is probably your Guiding Light your Northstar for you guys um
um and how do you actually use it and use it well I heard decision making and
hiring but kind of just as succinctly as you can if that's a possibility because it's a big wide topic is there tell me
about that we come about it well I I think for one it's important to note that we don't have um business degrees
we don't have corporate backgrounds and I think that's been an advantage in this sense I agree um my background's in
education so a lot I think of it is from you know when you're in educator
you want people you want your students to feel included in like they belong so that's just it's a part of knowing who
you are and what you value and the thing that you bring to everything you do even when you're not trying and so when you
can kind of identify that within yourself like I mean that's the thing that like your soul cries to do right is
and for me it's like I want people to feel belonging I want people to come in and just be like oh my gosh I've wanted
to do yoga and it was so scary and I'm here and I I'm so glad I came like that
to me like I get emotional just talking about it and so it's I think first identify and he has similar things his
are a little different but they're enough that first off it wasn't we never had a business plan it we just were like we
had a mission and then didn't know how the hell we were going to do it and the mission just came came about so
organically it wasn't like we sat down and we're like well we really need to have a driving Mission you know it's it
just came about organically from our own drive to um to do certain things and so
I think a it needs to be heartfelt it and not again not this thing outside yourself where you think it's it's a
should for you right like I should be this should be what I want to do no it's
it's it's usually that thing that you're doing everywhere you go since childhood it is what you do yeah kind of like yeah
and it's like how can you then bring it into this context of your business because that's what you need to be do
your in yoga we talk about Dharma which is like your your way of contributing to
and upholding the highest good your swad Dharma is your personal way of doing that
and the thing is is if I'm trying to do it like you're doing it or this Corporation or yoga studio down the
street is it's I I'm not doing mine and so it's got to uphold the highest good
and it's got to um be something only you can really do and I think that then
within that if you don't hold too tightly then people can find their own um their own pieces of that too their
own ways to be a part and to contribute and to bring their missions to it too because it's like there's this umbrella
of the business's Mission but um I think everyone contributing to it they it's
broad enough and heartfelt enough um that it's it's received well
it's sincere in the way we present it and the way we act in the that's the thing too it means nothing if you're not
sincere and you're just you know you're phony and you're not genuinely like hiring people who when people come in
the door they're just welcoming so when you have that then there's room for
other people's um sweat armas or missions too and I think then things just start to Pop um I kind of went off
what's I love Sarma that's my new
word did I say it right Spa Dharma popping up all right got it wow so you
guys use it in decision making building your culture hiring what else do you guys use it
in community I I think communication I think especially it's important during
um when you have a moral dilemma or an ethical dilemma is we all have as
Leaders where you know you're not sure exactly the right thing and then it's like okay
well let's it's just it's the measuring stick for all things and um and when
it's when it's pure and when there's seeds of selflessness in it then you're
really not going to go wrong with it um you're you're not I need to wake up and live with myself now that doesn't mean I
don't have regrets and I have handled every situation perfectly but it does mean that
like um you know I
if it means we don't always make the best money-making decisions and that's sometimes hard I
think for people in the business world to hear and I also know we're lucky to
be in that position because there's businesses who really have had great missions and it hasn't worked for them so there's also just honestly there's
just some luck and timing and all of that with it too yeah well I'm glad I'm
glad luck and timing and missions all working out commun is better for it yeah I mean it's it's a way to check our
privilege in that because the privilege is to not always be driven by money and that we can make decisions but that's
also a conscious choice We Made You know we you know we started at the same time
you know another yoga studio I know started and they have over 200 Studios
Nationwide now and you know great for them that was their mission you know our mission was something that has not led
us down that road and so um like camber said I think that there's
there's different types of wealth you know just how you sleep at night yeah you know how you sleep at night like do
you for us you you can still have Prett sleepless nights on a mattress full of
cash yeah you know what I mean and you can sleep pretty good um when you in
alignment with your swad D Arma and maybe you know you're not
live in the uh cultural Hustle the culture hustle dream yeah yeah Hustler
dream what am I trying to say Hustler being an American hustler you
know what I mean like I I I don't know if an entrepreneur would look at us and be like uh you know no I I think most
people get into business to become rich or to become extremely financially wealthy and like if that would have happen great but we always put the
mission first is what I'm trying to say and yeah I think a lot of entrepreneurs admire you too so wow well that is kind
thank you but it's an interesting thing because you you do kind of have to choose sometimes and I've met a lot I've
met a lot of really successful rich people who are not happy yeah you know
they're not successful in that regard no in that regard yeah and I think for us you know maybe it's because we have this
sibling language and care that our mom taught us going back to that leadership that like like I said our mom never let
on that weren't you know struggling and we were but leading with love was the
lesson she gave us and so you know ultimately if you want to boil it down those three guiding principles of yoga
education and accessibility you know or Community sorry Community Education accessibility they're they're baked in
love you know and that's that's kind of how we try to lead and I think that
that's not always easy in business no it's not CU it's scary you know a lot of
times yeah yeah well even with love doesn't always mean that you're nice right oh no you still have boundaries
too and you have to say no or to yeah exactly okay so advice time what advice
would you give to our listeners when it comes to leadership and your experiences
and building up Cambio oh
boy do you have one off the top of your head well I just think L you
know I think putting the mission before your ego number one number two
um really making sure that the people who are in on the mission with you know
how much you care about them like and but by the way it's like you said with caring it's like that doesn't mean they
can walk all over and do whatever they want um but that's you know recognizing
roles and expectations to in terms of the context of what is this conversation we're having as as Employer an employee
you know we're we're talking about fostering growing and building a mission
that is um you know the most important thing yeah yeah I mean I would just
really second that I think it's around I I think um figure out if not your mission your true values and and really
let that be be um just your your Center Point and let
the rest kind of come out from there I hear leadership with love and a
Guiding Light that's just pretty special sings to my heart it sounds easier than
it is well it requires embodiment I think that's the kind of word that's been
circleing for me is like it's one thing to have your mission statement on the wall it's another thing do you embody
that mission statement do you live it is it something that someone can see in your life and how you're showing up and
the values like you've been saying is it the filter by which you make all of your decisions when those two things happen
all of a sudden it's actually coming to life versus a mission statement this is written on a wall that nobody's
embodying and they're doing something else then it creates that weird friction of like what are we doing or you know if
the owner's embodiment is just to make money great can we just own that is our mission right can our mission just be
make a ton of money like yeah let's be honest about what we're here doing and why we're doing it
and I think if we'd be more honest about those things that would show up in your life right and I think that yeah it's
not just a platitude on the wall it's something that comes hard-earned and and so when you as a business owner figure
out what your mission is it's going to take you on a ride that is going to teach you things that you don't know
what you're signing up for when you sign up for it going to grow you in ways where you're like this is the absolute
hardest thing I could have chosen and yet you don't have another Choice yeah
right and the most fulfilling then because of that too so satisfying and it invites the right people along for the
journey too yes right when you have that right Mission those right values and
they're not transcribed on the wall they're implanted in someone's heart everybody's heart you invite the right
people to come along and you repel the wrong so well and and some of those
people those right people show us the next steps in it and because they embody
it so well in ways that we're just like whoa I didn't even realize it was beyond the scope of our imagination so I mean
I'm telling you we have been taught more from the stewards um than so it's hard
you know you say what's the juiciest mistakes and it's like we've honestly been taught more from the the kind of
happen stance of just being pretty singularly focused and it attracting the
right people and them also embodying it in way where they role model it to us and we just go oh we'll let you take the
lead here and we'll follow your you could do this way better than
me Amber Austin thank you so much I could sit here and talk with you guys for another two hours but you guys have
two Studios to run so and a mission to fulfill and a community
to lead and you know nothing else going on in your lives um but thank you so so
much for joining us today and showing us all of the wonderful Journey that you
guys have gone through um and just your openness and also your friendship so
thank you well thank you thanks for having us this has so much fun joy can you do me a favor and tell our viewers
and listeners and our guests here how in the world do they get a hold
of you join your community what can they do to support your community and your mission uh yeah sure well come take some
yoga with us um we and I I think too it's important to not we really love
beginners so if you're scared of it if you're intimidated by it if you think it's not for you if you don't feel like
you have the right whatever um we just first step is is really just um be brave
we'll take good care of you our website is uh Cambo yoga.com we have amazing
people answering our phone um that's 719 22 91188 I'm so proud of myself for it's
not a hard number and it always escapes my brain um and what else Instagram
Facebook if you follow yeah CIO yoga on any of those too so but yeah I mean
we've got 80 some classes a week uh so wide variability
by losing the ability to speak talking variability what is the word variety
variety available variety available of classes like different styles different
times that's part of the accessibility too and um online we've got on demand classes both live and ones that you can
take that are in the uh archive um teacher trainings yeah workshops things
from sound baths to Mantra classes to um like last week we get a headstand and
shoulder stand class and a Sanskrit class I mean our teachers are always bringing it with like really creative
offerings for a community so it's always it's on the website but it's always kind of revolving of like fresh new offerings
always happening and if I can just add I think too our we have so many classes that can be overwhelming so if you see
that and you're like where do I begin um call that number or info@ Cambo yoga.com
and we'll help you find a class too that's right for you because you can look at that and be like what and then you read the description
and you're like I'm even more confused and so we try to be clear but it can be when it's not your world and your
language it can be confusing so definitely can be well definitely take
my friends up on their their generous offer to help you figure out the first step in your yoga Journey as well as
your uh exploration of your leadership Journey too um thanks again you thank
you so much so much fun thank you stay tun tuned for our next episode to show me yours where we will be diving in with
the future guest I forget who it is so we'll find out it'll be a surprise for all of us thank you guys
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